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	<title>Comments on: Vodafone&#8217;s missed opportunity, and the iPhone&#8217;s gain</title>
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	<description>Tracking the UK's mobile and web start-up ecosystem.</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jez</title>
		<link>http://uk.techcrunch.com/2008/02/01/vodafones-missed-opportunity-and-the-iphones-gain/#comment-105902</link>
		<dc:creator>Jez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike.. recently came to the end of my contract with Orange. So called them up to cancel, but you know I will listen to the retention plan. It may be worthwhile..

"What do you need Mr Jez?" .. I need a REALLY good dataplan - give me a contract with free data please.. "I'm sorry Mr Jez, we aren't going to do that; but we will offer you a M3100 smartphone for £149"

How about you look at the phone I bought 18 months ago? I got the M3100 Smartphone FREE OF CHARGE for a new Orange Contract... unbelieveable

At least Vodafone, o2 , T-mobile and Three recognise the fact that affordable and worthwhile dataplans are VERY IMPORTANT in any mobile contract in the UK. 

Why can't Orange???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike.. recently came to the end of my contract with Orange. So called them up to cancel, but you know I will listen to the retention plan. It may be worthwhile..</p>
<p>&#8220;What do you need Mr Jez?&#8221; .. I need a REALLY good dataplan - give me a contract with free data please.. &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry Mr Jez, we aren&#8217;t going to do that; but we will offer you a M3100 smartphone for £149&#8243;</p>
<p>How about you look at the phone I bought 18 months ago? I got the M3100 Smartphone FREE OF CHARGE for a new Orange Contract&#8230; unbelieveable</p>
<p>At least Vodafone, o2 , T-mobile and Three recognise the fact that affordable and worthwhile dataplans are VERY IMPORTANT in any mobile contract in the UK. </p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t Orange???</p>
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		<title>By: Vodaboy</title>
		<link>http://uk.techcrunch.com/2008/02/01/vodafones-missed-opportunity-and-the-iphones-gain/#comment-105393</link>
		<dc:creator>Vodaboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to pick up the point from Prashant - I think the £8.50 is excluding VAT, and the £9.99 is with VAT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to pick up the point from Prashant - I think the £8.50 is excluding VAT, and the £9.99 is with VAT.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Butcher</title>
		<link>http://uk.techcrunch.com/2008/02/01/vodafones-missed-opportunity-and-the-iphones-gain/#comment-105222</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Butcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat - Good point. I guess if Nokia could strike a better deal they could really nail the iPhone. It's all about the mobile browser now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat - Good point. I guess if Nokia could strike a better deal they could really nail the iPhone. It&#8217;s all about the mobile browser now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Prashant Agarwal</title>
		<link>http://uk.techcrunch.com/2008/02/01/vodafones-missed-opportunity-and-the-iphones-gain/#comment-105200</link>
		<dc:creator>Prashant Agarwal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 11:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new monthly price is a pretty good deal at 15GBP. But they increased the flat-rate roaming from 8.50GBP to 9.99GBP per 24 hour period. At the same time the list of countries looks longer than before:
http://www.vodafone.com/start/media_relations/news/local_press_releases/uk_press_releases/2007/vodafone_uk_unveils.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new monthly price is a pretty good deal at 15GBP. But they increased the flat-rate roaming from 8.50GBP to 9.99GBP per 24 hour period. At the same time the list of countries looks longer than before:<br />
<a href="http://www.vodafone.com/start/media_relations/news/local_press_releases/uk_press_releases/2007/vodafone_uk_unveils.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.vodafone.com/start/media_relations/news/local_press_releases/uk_press_releases/2007/vodafone_uk_unveils.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: pat phelan</title>
		<link>http://uk.techcrunch.com/2008/02/01/vodafones-missed-opportunity-and-the-iphones-gain/#comment-105199</link>
		<dc:creator>pat phelan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 11:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whilst I bet Vodafone are depressed regarding the home broadband sign ups Mike, I feel personally the the iPhone issue is a red herring.
I would love to see the churn rate on users.
Every O2 user that signed up to iPhone is a substansial loss in revenue to O2 due to the kickback to Mr Jobs and Co which is spoken in hushed terms to be 18%-21%.
Obviously users from other networks signing up to the iPhone package is a serious gain for O2 but I think you are going to see carriers seriously evaluate this year the gains or losses for the network due to the incredible demands placed on them by Apple for acquiring the franchise</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whilst I bet Vodafone are depressed regarding the home broadband sign ups Mike, I feel personally the the iPhone issue is a red herring.<br />
I would love to see the churn rate on users.<br />
Every O2 user that signed up to iPhone is a substansial loss in revenue to O2 due to the kickback to Mr Jobs and Co which is spoken in hushed terms to be 18%-21%.<br />
Obviously users from other networks signing up to the iPhone package is a serious gain for O2 but I think you are going to see carriers seriously evaluate this year the gains or losses for the network due to the incredible demands placed on them by Apple for acquiring the franchise</p>
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